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    Thread: budget vr6 turbo setup

    1. 04-14-2004 12:48 AM #1
      i would like to build a low-boost turbo setup for my mk3 12v vr6. its a daily driven car, and i want it to be more of a 'fun' setup than a track setup. id be very satisfied with somewhere close to 240-250hp. no need for standalone, a air to water fmic or anything like that...how much would it cost me to build a setup like this if i shop around and put the kit together slowly? i'm not sure if and of the 2g stock eclipse turbo parts are compatible, but my friend has 2 or 3 complete turbo setups for that car and he'd probably give me parts i could use for next to nothing.

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      04-14-2004 08:16 AM #2
      Well, the SMALLEST turbo I would put an a VR6 would be a t3/t4.

      If you get used parts and run non intercooled you could probably get away with $1800-$2200. That does not include a diff and clutch. If you plan on just driving it around and your stock clutch seems to be ok then you shouldn't have to worry about it.

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    3. 04-14-2004 12:22 PM #3
      just under 3 with ALL NEW parts

      not inlcuding headgasket, smt6, or ic piping though

      1994 Toyota Supra TT
      2001 VW GTI VR6 Turbo - Sold

    4. 04-14-2004 02:54 PM #4
      i was gonna start off with a lot of used things, then just slowly upgrade. would i still need to change the head gasket if i only ran 8psi?

      edit: just talked to my friend with the eclipse turbo setups. he said he'd give me an intercooler and bov for $50 since they're just laying around. he also offered the oil feed/return lines, but will they fit my car? also, is a turbo downpipe specially made, or just a stock one with a flange welded on? i have an extra downpipe and im sure i could get one of them made if thats all there is to it.


      Modified by phil9922 at 3:02 PM 4-14-2004


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      04-14-2004 07:24 PM #5
      This is all IMO. Do it right the first time, get a cast manifold with a T4 that hits max boost around 4000. Than go and be cheap and run non intercooled 5,6......psi. Id say the most important part of the whole turbo choices are the actual turbo and fueling. Id sat get a FMU and eip chip for fueling or talk to jefnes on the tex.

    6. 04-14-2004 09:36 PM #6
      the reason i think i want to stay away from t4 is because the car will be a daily driver so it still needs to be somewhat reliable. i cant go building the internals either, and i dont want to get myself into too much trouble with it.

    7. 04-14-2004 09:42 PM #7
      Why would a T4 make your car not a daily driver?

    8. 04-15-2004 12:12 AM #8
      just the more boost, the more likely i am to break something. and why install a t4 if im not going to use it to its potential?

    9. 04-15-2004 01:14 AM #9
      You want a budget turbo setup run Jeff's 30# v2 chip, T04, 3" turbo-back, non-intercooled. Should put you around 260-270 whp which will last for a couple months, then the upgrades begin.

      I have a T04 and I drive my car every day. You say you are afraid of more boost but there is this amazing new contraption called a boost controller. You can adjust how much power you have!!!


    10. 04-15-2004 07:35 AM #10
      i know, but if im only running ~8psi, wouldnt a t3/t4 be less laggy? i also may get greedy if the power is there and start to break things

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      04-15-2004 08:13 AM #11
      I'm running a T04E on my daily driver running 8psi. No lag, no problems.
      An Audi, a box of parts and an attitude.

    12. 04-15-2004 08:18 AM #12
      how much boost can be run on our motors with just a copper headgasket?

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      04-15-2004 10:07 AM #13
      With the proper fueling and lower compression I think guys are doing 15-17 psi.

      Stock compression 9 maybe 10.

      An Audi, a box of parts and an attitude.

    14. 04-15-2004 12:06 PM #14
      Quote, originally posted by phil9922 »
      i would like to build a low-boost turbo setup for my mk3 12v vr6. its a daily driven car, and i want it to be more of a 'fun' setup than a track setup. id be very satisfied with somewhere close to 240-250hp. no need for standalone, a air to water fmic or anything like that...how much would it cost me to build a setup like this if i shop around and put the kit together slowly? i'm not sure if and of the 2g stock eclipse turbo parts are compatible, but my friend has 2 or 3 complete turbo setups for that car and he'd probably give me parts i could use for next to nothing.

      I started out just like this

      I started buying parts like 6 mos ago... originally spent like 2G's, and I was running...I just crossed the 7G's line... but I have EVERYTHING!!! I did mine on a budget... you will end up doing the same


    15. 04-15-2004 02:06 PM #15
      where can i get jeff's 30# chip? i didnt think 15psi was possible without building up the motor, now that i know that i can see why everyone is saying t4 and im thinking the same thing. will g60 injectors work or should i get bigger ones?

    16. 04-15-2004 06:40 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by J Dubya »
      With the proper fueling and lower compression I think guys are doing 15-17 psi.

      Stock compression 9 maybe 10.

      11 mayyyybe 12.


    17. 04-15-2004 08:29 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by Ohio Brian »

      11 mayyyybe 12.

      on stock, right?


    18. 04-15-2004 08:55 PM #18
      yes......

    19. 04-15-2004 09:06 PM #19
      heres the list so far:

      greddy type-s bov
      hks 35mm external wastegate
      eip chip unless i can find jeffs?
      atp exhaust manifold
      atp downpipe
      atp manual boost controller
      atp oil feed/returns
      atp oil pan
      t04e turbo
      random fmic my friend has laying around
      g60 injectors?

      does that sound ok? if theres anything i should stay away from in there let me know, or if there's any less expensive alternatives.


    20. 04-15-2004 10:00 PM #20
      Yup. Stock.

    21. 04-15-2004 10:11 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by phil9922 »
      where can i get jeff's 30# chip? i didnt think 15psi was possible without building up the motor, now that i know that i can see why everyone is saying t4 and im thinking the same thing. will g60 injectors work or should i get bigger ones?

      Jeff is a member here. His screename is Jefnes3.

      If you run his 30# chip, you want 30# injectors...

      How much research have you done so far?


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      04-15-2004 11:07 PM #22
      Just an FYI, Ohio Brian and I are both running Jeffs chip.
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    23. 04-15-2004 11:15 PM #23
      I'm on the 42# setup now.

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