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 New Chevy Aveo to Premiere at Frankfurt« »

Audi's Walter da Silva was having a restless night. Turning uncontrollably. Throwing the sheets off. His stomach the size of a walnut, he was waking up from a headache that pounded in syncopated rhythm with the thumping in his own chest. It wasn't internal turmoil at Volkswagen Group that waylaid Mr. Sandman. It wasn't the mild critical reception of the A5 coupe. No, he was reeling in the wake of knowledge that he was responsible for a raft of imitation single-frame grilles, the most ghastly manifestation of which had appeared on the facelifted Chevrolet Aveo, which is making its debut at the Frankfurt Auto Show in September.

The facelifted model will feature either a 1.2-liter, 84-horsepower or a 1.4-liter, 98-horsepower gas engine, the latter available with an automatic transmission, and will go on sale in March of 2008. We wonder what kind of exciting new Geelys this newest Aveo will spawn.

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It's going to eaaaaaaaaaaat me!

Holy crap, what an awful grille! And it's the same body that's been impressing no one for the past few years.



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 Re: New Chevy Aveo to Premiere at Frankfurt (AKADriver) »« »

I love how the front wheel arch looks like it's for a completely different vehicle than the back one. Somehow, I think this thread and the one about the Ram with the light pole in its front end are connected...



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 Re: New Chevy Aveo to Premiere at Frankfurt (AKADriver) »« »

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It's going to eaaaaaaaaaaat me!

Holy crap, what an awful grille! And it's the same body that's been impressing no one for the past few years.

yeah a little new makeup shouldnt be fooling anyone. funny how the us refresh was so much nicer looking too.



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funny how the us refresh was so much nicer looking too.

The distinction isn't US/Euro but sedan/hatch. The hatch worldwide is still the same as the original '04. This thing will be replacing it.

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CLEARLY that style of grille was an Audi idea...

11ty billionth time this has been pointed out, too...





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CLEARLY that style of grille was an Audi idea...

11ty billionth time this has been pointed out, too...

do what now?





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do what now?


do what now?





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yeah, i'm not sure what we're getting at here?

are we talking about big grilles in general or one's that vaugely resemble current-gen Audi grilles?

your example has been ripped off by Mack trucks.



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I think it looks decent for a sub-compact.

I'd still take a Versa or Fit over this, but the better engines should give Chevy a helping hand in the Euro market. They need to get a better (more fuel efficient, not powerful) engine for the North American market.



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do what now?

Except that looks NOTHING like the new Audi grilles...





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Except that looks NOTHING like the new Audi grilles...

and neither does the chrysler...

jesus christ people. who cares how people got ideas, just know that they are designing cars and you are NOT (well atleast most of us here).

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Except that looks NOTHING like the new Audi grilles...

And the LHS one does?



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Anyone else find it strange that the Aveo comes with the current 98hp engine and an "all new" 84hp one?




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CLEARLY that style of grille was an Audi idea...

11ty billionth time this has been pointed out, too...

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and neither does the chrysler...

jesus christ people. who cares how people got ideas, just know that they are designing cars and you are NOT (well atleast most of us here).

1 - Yes it does...

2 - Obviously the great people of Motive do, who make a great deal about this new Aveo having a grille that resembles the one "created by Audi."



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Hey guys, not for nothin' here, but I think that Chevy has been hinting at this sort of design language since at least 2003. Behold:





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1 - Yes it does...

2 - Obviously the great people of Motive do, who make a great deal about this new Aveo having a grille that resembles the one "created by Audi."

For someone who claims to not care about this site, you sure seem to be expending a lot of energy making useless points.

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The "Van Dike Beard Effect" grille is the creation of obscure automotive designer and Civil War Re-enactment Enthusiast, Billy Ray DuPree. He was too modest to claim credit for his work (plus the fact that he can't read).

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The "Van Dike Beard Effect" grille is the creation of obscure automotive designer and Civil War Re-enactment Enthusiast, Billy Ray DuPree. He was too modest to claim credit for his work (plus the fact that he can't read).

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CLEARLY that style of grille was an Audi idea...

11ty billionth time this has been pointed out, too...

Oh come off it already. If you can't see that the new Aveo bears more than a passing resemblance to the newer Audi grills (and nothing like the Chrysler for that matter,) you're letting your "Go USA" mantra cloud your vision a little too much.



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And on what car(s) did that style of a nose first appear on? I'm not calling ripoff here, but Audi was not the first to make that style of a nose on a car; making it angular, rather than rounded, does not make it a completely new concept. I don't care who would have done it first or from what country they happen to be, but claiming something is the original when it isn't, especially when there are traces of ripoff calling in the message, really bothers me.

This isn't some "Go USA!" BS and it never has been; pointing-out things that you feel aren't right or having a disssenting opinion aren't to be equated with some ignorant "AMERICA!!! *** YEAH!!!" cheering. So while I like different things than most of you like, critique of these things doesn't necessarily make me an ignorant moron, nor does defending things I like from the "haha!!! X sucks!!!" and other such forms of that crap. I've given-up the actual wide-open instigation of crap quite some time ago and will (generally) only give real criticism... yet you wouldn't know it by reading some of the replies I get.

Somehow, outright bashing Buick (or Ford, Chrysler, Dodge, etc.) is ok, but criticism of Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, etc. makes me a "redneck" or something; GM quotes, press releases et al are also to be considered useless PR while questioning Toyota's word (or practically any other manufacturer) is again grounds for being labelled an ignorant moron. Here, for example, we have the article somewhat claiming tht the Aveo is ripping-off the Audi grille and somehow this is probably to be considered a disgrace, I point out that style of nose as not being an Audi creation and of course, I'm a horrible person for it... Maybe the " " wasn't necessary, but it has been discussed ad nauseam.

It's a discussion forum guys, a little contrast or differing opinions never hurt anyone. At least you'll never see me make a serious post that can be summed-up in "OMG Honda sucks!!!", unlike all too many post in threads about things I like. I've actualy been ridiculed for liking Chryslers, Lincolns or Buicks by people who practically worship old Rabbits and such.

Oh, and when will I stop "playing the victim," you ask? I know someone will or would have brought this up. Well, when people stop making it personal.

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It looks even worse with a numberplate on it, seeing as they've made NO room for it...





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 Re: New Chevy Aveo to Premiere at Frankfurt (Wes@motivemag) »« »

Hey Wes..."It was a dark and stormy night".......


we'll call this article....."the old man and the grille" LOL

Helluva lot better looking than the present car.....to bad it's such a bottom feeder.

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Audi's Walter da Silva was having a restless night. Turning uncontrollably. Throwing the sheets off. His stomach the size of a walnut, he was waking up from a headache that pounded in syncopated rhythm with the thumping in his own chest. It wasn't internal turmoil at Volkswagen Group that waylaid Mr. Sandman. It wasn't the mild critical reception of the A5 coupe. No, he was reeling in the wake of knowledge that he was responsible for a raft of imitation single-frame grilles





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And on what car(s) did that style of a nose first appear on? I'm not calling ripoff here, but Audi was not the first to make that style of a nose on a car; making it angular, rather than rounded, does not make it a completely new concept.

Dude, to be fair, they're right. That Aveo looks like an Audi ripoff. Yes, Chrysler was first with the large grille, and yes, Chevy's done the split-bar grille for several years now, so it's not like it was completely intentional, but it is what it is.

Incidentally, that Aveo facelift is horrifyingly ugly.

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The front is not my cup of tea, but if you are going to be a bit radical with your styling, then why stop at the A-pillar?
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OK... I'll say it. I like the front fine. I even like the Aveo current sedan. While not sporty, it is def "cute" and plain at worst.

The saddest part is that they forgot or ran out of funds to finish from the A-pillar on back. Maybe they are redesigning 1/4 of the car per MCE? That's how they will "keep it fresh every year" (i.e. Change a 1/4 of the car every year until the generation is dead. Maybe at the end of the gen, we will know what they really intended.). I bet the actual designers are frustrated as hell with this strategy.

It's no wonder they're getting spanked, but then that is what they get for milking the Daewoo sales bargain for what its worth... instead of being happy they got such a massive discount on the purchase.



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