Can anyone elaborate on how the Electric Differential Lock works?
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Anticipation of the upcoming Geneva auto show is showing through in the reveals already taking place. BMW has just let slip its John Cooper Works Mini Cooper S and Clumban models, and we’ve got all the details and pictures.
Following on the tradition of saving the sportiest variants for the John Cooper Works line of Mini cars, the latest Cooper S and Clubman models bring very similar stats to the performance party. At 155kW (211hp) 260Nm torque, the 1.6L twin-scroll turbocharged petrol four-cylinder provides the power to get the JCW Cooper S to 100km/h (62mph) in just 6.5s. The Clubman follows at 6.8s. An ‘overboost’ feature allows the JCW Minis to bump torque up to 280Nm for short stints under hard acceleration. Top speed comes at 238km/h (148mph).
While traction control gets in the way of the fun - although it helps to limit torque steer around town - a press of the DSC-off button gets rid of some of the electronic-nannying while also engaging an Electric Differential Lock on the drive axle, which improves handling and acceleration in much the same way a limited slip differential does.
Both models also get special lightweight 17″ wheels, stronger brakes, exhaust tuning and a standard six-speed transmission. Starting price in Europe is €27,700 for the John Cooper Works Mini and the Clubman starts at €29,500.
The increased power output of the new Minis comes from optimising the air-pump qualities of the 1.6L petrol four-banger. The air filter, mass airflow sensor, exhaust and catalyst have all been optimized to flow the greatest amount of air possible. Green considerations were not cast aside completely, either, with the Cooper S-based model achieving a fuel efficiency of 6.9L/100km (34mpg) and 165g/km CO2 emissions and the Clubman yielding 7.0L/100km (33.6mpg) and 167g/km CO2.
Listen up, buddy, I've had both - I eat plain bagels with cream cheese all the time, and I know people who've brought me onion bagels to try. I've toasted them both. I've even had poppy seed bagels and bagels and lox with capers. I'll pit your onion bagel against my plain bagel with cream cheese any time anywhere, just meet me halfway.
Disgusting in more ways than one. The twin stripes and black accenting just look horrible on the Clubman -- especially with the "bird wing" rear wipers.
And the goofy scoop with the three little strakes on the sill extensions are tacky as hell. And those gawd awful rear bumpers with the vents in them.
WTH is this isht?
Just gimme the previous generation Cooper S which doesn't have the hideous interior of the current gen.
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You guys will kill me, but I actually like the clubman. I saw it in the flesh, and it's actually pretty nice.
i thought i would be the first to say that. i actually like it a lot. i guess because it's so unique compared to the original. i don't know, i'd probably take it over the normal mini just for that, because you know the performance is going to be almost equal and resale will probably be better, if that's even posible.
i thought i would be the first to say that. i actually like it a lot. i guess because it's so unique compared to the original. i don't know, i'd probably take it over the normal mini just for that, because you know the performance is going to be almost equal and resale will probably be better, if that's even posible.
I'd have to agree, the Mini's have all basically been the same it's a nice change.
I have over 900 miles on my regular clubman and ordered the JCW last week (well put the deposit on the first order spot @ my store). Its evidently a limited run. The size of the car is just right for everyday use and for the odd trip that you need room there is PLENTY there. While the regular Clubman has enough power to get you around town and possibly get you in trouble on the highway, the JCW is sure to have the get-up-and-go that my Phaeton had.
The trick with the Clubmans are to keep it simple and not do crazy combinations--I saw a disgusting combination today when I went by to confirm what I wanted on my JCW Clubman (exactly what my clubman looks like now except with NAV) and a customer was taking delivery of their Laser Blue with Black top and back end.
Modified by paulkountz at 8:45 PM 2-23-2008
Modified by paulkountz at 8:47 PM 2-23-2008
Previous Cars: 1995 Ford Explorer, 1996 Volvo 960, 1999 Land Rover Range Rover 4.6 HSE, 2000 Audi A6 2.7T 6spd, 2004 VW Phaeton 5 Seater, 2004 Phaeton 4 Seater, 2006 Chrysler 300 SRT8, 2008 MINI Cooper Clubman, 2007 Ford Taurus, 2003 Maserati Coupe GT, 2009 Nissan Maxima SV Luxury, 2008 BMW M3 Sedan, 2006 VW Touareg V10 TDI, 2008 Audi A4 Cabriolet Current Car: 2008 Saab 9-3
I can't think of any other cars that let you hang yourself as badly with combinations like you can with a Cooper. All sorts of roof designs, stripes, mirrors, etc.
The 2008 John Cooper Works Mini Clubman looks like it went through a car wash, albeit the brushes where replaced with ugly sticks....
John Cooper is doing it wrong with the 2008 John Cooper Works Mini Clubman, as Simon says this thing won't be going to Hollywood
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Can anyone elaborate on how the Electric Differential Lock works?
It's a sad substitute for a real LSD - it's basically just smarter traction control, using brakes to control wheelspin. It seems to be all the rage with sporty cars these days since it's cheaper than a real LSD. It's just an extra few lines of code in the stability/traction control program, no need for any mechanical parts.
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It's a sad substitute for a real LSD - it's basically just smarter traction control, using brakes to control wheelspin. It seems to be all the rage with sporty cars these days since it's cheaper than a real LSD. It's just an extra few lines of code in the stability/traction control program, no need for any mechanical parts.
Not quite sure if it's the same in the current gen, but my 2007 Mini JCW has a Quaife LSD in it, with the option of turning off the DSC (dynamic stability control).
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